i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.
i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.
i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.
I was a mod there and would like to say that I haven't disfellowshipped anybody. I was opposed to the manner of the closure (and voiced it) but respect the right of the owner to choose his own way to go about it.
The site was a great support for many and I hope it will be remembered as such and not just judged on one decision about how it was closed.
i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.
i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.
i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.
The decision was prompted by the two admin deciding they wanted to move on and become ex ex JWs. They needed the site "gone" for themselves and did not want to pass it on both for personal and practical reasons such as security of other people's data.
That site filled a niche and I think it's a great loss but at the end of the day any forum is the property of the owners not the members. That site was set up in response to Simon deciding to close this one, a decision he ultimately reversed. I don't think the admin the wanted to throw themselves open to pleas to keep it going when it wasn't the right thing for them.
i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.
i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.
i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.
Hi wizzstick
I did make that point to admin but the decision was only made a week ago and they were dead set on closing ASAP without discussion with the membership. I think a lot of people will find their way here.
i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.
i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.
i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.
Hey TimeBandit it was great while it lasted wasn't it?
I expect Simon will see a lot of new member requests today.
i used to post on this site years ago.
then, my login quit working.
haven't been here in a long time.
John Doe! 😀
who was the poster, about 8 years ago, who came on the forum and claimed he had inside information that the gb were planning radical changes.
he said that in ten years time jws would be unrecognisable.
many were skeptical.
two men who changed watchtower history but you never heard of them!
cults are famous for control--especially controlling information about people, places and events which are embarrassing to their self-myths.. especially is this true for two important figures in watchtower history.. .
the first man is william f. hudgings.
Very interesting thanks.
sbf you annoyed me enough to deserve this.. gad saad's comments on the nonsensical gibberish of jacques derrida, michel foucault, and jacques lacan.
charlatanism of the highest order.
.... the first quote from derrida starts as 2:50.
My view is the "scientific method" had become a bit of a gold standard which some people want to apply to everything; from this perspective there are universal facts "out there" to be discovered. However your methods shape the knowledge you produce. Empirical, experimental methods work well for the natural sciences they leave room for huge oversights and unacknowledged assumptions when it comes to areas like psychology and philosophy.
Edited to add: I believe I am sufficiently qualified to venture an informed opinion on this topic.
i don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.
they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.
but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.
Maybe they won't declare the great tribulation but that the ark door is shut. The dubs would get all fired up about giving the judgement message without the GB having to shoot the GT load. The risk of them ending up with even less credibility if they called the great tribulation would be too much.
i was stalking to a jw today about her recent experience on the carts and with being a jw generally.
until this conversation i considered the carts as just an ineffective preaching method and a harmless waste of time.
but now i wonder if the effect of the carts might be to produce noticeable decline in jw numbers.
I was in the city centre last week and walked past about 4 carts. I was approached by campaigners fur the EU referendum twice, people who are passionate about their message and wanted to engage people and make a difference. Not so the JWs.
